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Post by stirls on Jul 31, 2006 9:03:34 GMT -5
Terry - if you are starting a co-op on your own you will want to use your own unique keycode.
Chris
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Post by tab426 on Aug 1, 2006 0:38:24 GMT -5
Hi all, I have been using this and what a great tool! I should probably already know this but ; using my shares from Erich's August co-op, I need to start a new powerline with whatever that key code will be? Is that correct ? If so how do I know what it will be?? A little slow, Thanks Terry Terry, You shouldn't have to do anything if you bought shares from Erich's co-op. Erich has his co-op set up as a powerline co-op. For reference though his August keycode is 95. Tim
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Post by Terry on Aug 1, 2006 9:17:18 GMT -5
Hi Guys,
Yes thank you. Upon futher investigation I stumbled upon the answer this AM(as usual)
I am so thrilled to see things actually happening with my business...in large part thanks to all of you.... that I sometimes leap before I look. Thanks again
Terry
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Post by Lori G. on Aug 15, 2006 14:58:56 GMT -5
I have followed the previous instructions and set up a co-op about a month ago. So far it shows nothing. All affiliates I'm signing up are going directly to me (not my downline). Is there something else I should be doing? Did I miss something?
Lori
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Post by mschmidt10 on Aug 15, 2006 22:03:45 GMT -5
Hi Lori,
Did you add affiliate SFI IDs after you created the co-op (click the Key Code link)? That's easy step to miss.
Mark
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Post by Lori G. on Aug 15, 2006 22:14:27 GMT -5
Hi Mark,
Are you saying as I get new affiliates, I put their ID #'s in?
Lori
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Post by tab426 on Aug 16, 2006 1:28:11 GMT -5
I have followed the previous instructions and set up a co-op about a month ago. So far it shows nothing. All affiliates I'm signing up are going directly to me (not my downline). Is there something else I should be doing? Did I miss something? Lori Hi Lori, Are you advertising your CO-OP URL? When you set up the co-op, you either chose a keycode or one was automatically assigned. You will need to have that keycode in your links in order for your new sign-ups to enter through your co-op. For example: If your co-op keycode is 3101 your co-op link would be... www.moreinfo247.com/xxxxxxx.3101/FREE A link without the keycode such as www.moreinfo247.com/xxxxxxx/FREE or a different keycode such as www.moreinfo247.com/xxxxxxx.25/FREE will not enter new signups through your co-op. Thanks, Tim
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Post by Lori G. on Aug 16, 2006 7:01:42 GMT -5
Thanks TIm. So if I am using a keycode of 100, I'll need to add the 100 into my links.
That makes sense.
Thanks again, Lori
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Post by mschmidt10 on Aug 16, 2006 19:24:43 GMT -5
Hi Mark, Are you saying as I get new affiliates, I put their ID #'s in? Lori Hi Lori, Not exactly. As one of the steps to creating the co-op, add SFI ID's for affiliates that are already in your T-Net that you'd like to build a powerline underneath. Choose those you feel are the best candidates to upgrade (completed Smart Start, you've traded e-mails with them, etc.) ... maybe pick the two in your first level. Use the same number of IDs as new affiliates you get per day - if you get one new affiliate per day, use one ID. Mark
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Post by Lori G. on Aug 16, 2006 20:00:23 GMT -5
Could you do both? Have the affiliates come in through the keycoded websites and manually add them in.
Thanks, Lori
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Post by jayman62 on Aug 16, 2006 20:43:30 GMT -5
Hello All,
I've read this post with much interest since I recently became a BTL. Can some one explain the finer points of: Number of shares and I am a little confused about the 1 to 1 ratio? For example I average about 2-3 affilates a week. So if I'm reading this right I need to add 2-3 of my top affilates to the powerline?
Also am I creating a new powerline every month? Or just continually add people to the one I created first.
I'm halway getting it and halfway confused.
Any help would be appreciated,
Thanks,
Jay
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Post by Lori G. on Aug 17, 2006 13:07:27 GMT -5
OK, I think I've got it. You set up a co-op, give it a keycode to insert into your URL. Make sure to put that keycode into the link(s) on your site.
Then, you manually insert the ID# of your pre-existing affiliates that you want to build your powerline under.
I set up 2 co-ops. One for active EA's, to help keep their momentum going, and one for non EA's, to try to help them achieve EA status. I put 5 affiliates in each.
Someone please let me know if this is OK or if there is something else I need to do.
Lori
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Post by mschmidt10 on Aug 17, 2006 20:47:47 GMT -5
OK, I think I've got it. You set up a co-op, give it a keycode to insert into your URL. Make sure to put that keycode into the link(s) on your site. Then, you manually insert the ID# of your pre-existing affiliates that you want to build your powerline under. I set up 2 co-ops. One for active EA's, to help keep their momentum going, and one for non EA's, to try to help them achieve EA status. I put 5 affiliates in each. Someone please let me know if this is OK or if there is something else I need to do. Lori Lori, I think you are getting the hang of this! For an EA co-op, consider awarded them sponsorship instead of yourself. That will give them a taste and get them started with working with affiliates with your guidance. Keep in mind that the most optimal way to create a co-op is to use the 1-1 ratio (one affiliate for each affiliate you can generate in a day). If you typically receive one new affiliate each day, then have one SFI ID in your co-op. This maximizes the number of NGR's that get sent out to your affiliates. Mark
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Post by mschmidt10 on Aug 17, 2006 20:58:52 GMT -5
Hello All, I've read this post with much interest since I recently became a BTL. Can some one explain the finer points of: Number of shares and I am a little confused about the 1 to 1 ratio? For example I average about 2-3 affilates a week. So if I'm reading this right I need to add 2-3 of my top affilates to the powerline? Also am I creating a new powerline every month? Or just continually add people to the one I created first. I'm halway getting it and halfway confused. Any help would be appreciated, Thanks, Jay Hi Jay, The 1 to 1 ratio is the number of affiliates you can generate in one day. So, if you average less than one per day choose one affiliate. The best case is you average one affiliate per day for your one affiliate - then each day everyone in the powerline will receive an NGR e-mail ... and then of course up from there ... I think it is natural to start a new powerline each month, because SFI compresses your T-Net each month. Mark
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Post by Lori G. on Aug 17, 2006 21:16:24 GMT -5
For an EA co-op, consider awarded them sponsorship instead of yourself. That will give them a taste and get them started with working with affiliates with your guidance. This is an excellent Idea Mark, thank you. I will start a new co-op for my EA's and let them retain sponsorship. Thanks again, Lori
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Post by jayman62 on Aug 18, 2006 11:28:56 GMT -5
Hi Mark,
Thanks for the reply. Okay I get the 1 affiliate added because I'm averaging at least 1 affiliate a day, then when I'm averaging 2 a day I add another affiliate.
In your statement above, I don't understand the part about "everyone in the powerline receives a NGR email", at this point if I only have one affiliate in the powerline they are the only one who gets the emails right?
Also I'm not sure about the number of shares to allocate.
Sorry for all the questions.
Jay
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Post by tab426 on Aug 18, 2006 21:49:37 GMT -5
Hi Jay,
If you don't have a powerline co-op in place, your affiliates enter your T-Net horizontally:
example:
Day1 Day2 Day3 Day4 Day5 Day6 Tom Joe Harry Peter Paul Mary (no NGRs are generated with this placement)
With a powerline co-op your affiliates enter vertically:
Day1 Tom Day2 Joe (Tom gets an NGR about Joe) Day3 Harry (Joe AND Tom get an NGR about Harry) Day4 Peter (Harry AND Joe AND Tom get an NGR about Peter) Day5 Paul (Peter AND Harry AND Joe AND Tom get an NGR about Paul) Day6 Mary (Paul AND Peter AND Harry AND Joe AND Tom get an NGR about Mary)
In addition anyone above them who were not EAs (Daily NGRs only go to non-EAs) would also receive an NGR up to 24 levels.
Now let's say you were getting 2 a day but only had your co-op set for 1: Day1 Tom Joe Day2 Harry (Joe AND Tom get an NGR about Harry & Peter) Peter Day3 Paul Mary (Peter AND Harry AND Joe AND Tom get an NGR about Paul & Mary)
So because the 24 levels are filled twice as fast with the 2:1 ratio verses the 1:1 ratio... only 12 NGRs would be generated per affiliate with the 2:1 ratio verses 24 with the 1:1 ratio.
If you have it set for shares 1 share per participant should work.
Tim
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Post by jayman62 on Aug 23, 2006 8:25:23 GMT -5
Tim,
Thanks for the breakdown, I appreciate the time it took to put your reply together. It helps a lot!
Jay
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Post by Lori G. on Aug 24, 2006 12:15:35 GMT -5
I have set up a co-op for my "active" EA's. I have 5 EA's in there, each has recieved 2 affiliates so far. My first question is how many should I put under each one for this co-op? My next question is should I contact these new affiliates also, or let their sponsors take care of it?
Thanks, Lori
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Post by shing on Aug 24, 2006 12:26:28 GMT -5
Lori,
I have a lot of affiliates, but they are not converting to EA's. I do encourage them to do so, but it's not happening. What are you doing to help them to convert? I suspect my busiest ad at Google is affecting that a bit. It's my "free" ad. When they enter with that ad, they want to remain free. I have about 50 affiliates. Any thoughts or suggestions?
Shawna
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Post by Lori G. on Aug 24, 2006 14:14:48 GMT -5
Hi Shawna,
Getting affiliates to convert is hard. I have been offering a $10 SFI Gift Certificate to anyone who has completed SmartStart and is interested in becoming EA. This has worked OK in the past.
Now that I have this new co-op going for my EA's , I am offering all new affiliates a spot in this co-op "free of charge to them" when they become EA. I just sent out a message through contact manager the other day, to my non-EA's. Still waiting to see what will happen.
Other than that, I just keep sending out reminders or one of Erich's emails.
Hope this helps.
Lori
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Post by mschmidt10 on Aug 26, 2006 9:30:33 GMT -5
I have set up a co-op for my "active" EA's. I have 5 EA's in there, each has recieved 2 affiliates so far. My first question is how many should I put under each one for this co-op? My next question is should I contact these new affiliates also, or let their sponsors take care of it? Thanks, Lori Hi Lori, I guess how many affiliates you give away depends on what your goals are. You may want to consider focusing in on your two favorite EAs and help them reach BTL, and then you will become STL. Keep in mind the 1:1 ratio ... the more NGRs you have going out each day, the more upgrades you will see. Ideally, you want to teach your EAs to handle the communication, but I think it is okay for you to do a little if it makes sense. Mark
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Post by mschmidt10 on Aug 26, 2006 9:52:54 GMT -5
Lori, I have a lot of affiliates, but they are not converting to EA's. I do encourage them to do so, but it's not happening. What are you doing to help them to convert? I suspect my busiest ad at Google is affecting that a bit. It's my "free" ad. When they enter with that ad, they want to remain free. I have about 50 affiliates. Any thoughts or suggestions? Shawna Hi Shawna, Do you have a Powerline Co-op set up like this thread recommends? The NGRs that the Powerline Co-op generates is the best incentive. Are you a BTL? You need to be to use the Powerline Co-op. To reach BTL, consider signing up for 30 affiliates from Erich's monthly co-op - this is a Powerline Co-op and will most likely get you two EAs and BTL status. SFI also gives you a couple of example letters to use the Gift Certificate incentive that you can find from here: www.sfimg.com/Resources/GiftCertificateManager.sfiwww.sfimg.com/MyAccount/NewAffiliateGreeting.sfiMark
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Post by Lori on Aug 26, 2006 10:46:39 GMT -5
Lori… I don’t know what others do, but I do not contact the affiliates that I have given to my EA’s. You can’t do everything yourself and the only way that your new EA’s will learn, is if they do it themselves. I know this might sound harsh, but once you get many more EA’s (and you will)…it will be hard to keep up with everything. One thing that I do to help them…I send my new EA’s follow up letters to use. They must confirm that they received the follow letters before I can add them to my co-op. Shawna… Before you know it you will get new EA’s. We can offer them our help and guidance, but they must decide for themselves if the right business for them. It’s kinda like a numbers game…the more affiliates you bring in the odds get better. It’s a shame that many are just “tire kickers” and they just don’t get it. You can also try offer a GC when they contact you with questions or help. At the end of your reply, just add a little sentence such as…I can send you a $10 gift certificate if you would like to become EA...Just let me know! I hope this helps. Lori
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Post by shing on Aug 26, 2006 12:26:05 GMT -5
Thank you, Lori. That helps a lot. I have been hearing back from more of my affiliates with questions. I'm pleased about that, because I feel I have a lot to share with them.
So, in anticipation, when I do find someone serious that converts to EA, do I then give them my sign ups and train them? If so, that's really a great way to do it because we're both helping each other!! I receive many affiliates each day from my site - and most go through the smart start training. I contact them when they join, and again when they complete training, gently encouraging them to move to EA so they can see better results. I also steer them toward tops. I feel these are the very best ways to help people with SFI.
Shawna
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Post by Lori on Aug 26, 2006 18:04:14 GMT -5
Your very welcome Shawna, In my opinion, It is good to try to help your EA get some affiliates, but you have to make sure you are getting enough for yourself! I wouldn’t promise them an exact number of affiliates. After a while most of the time you will know who is serious and who is not…who is appreciative and who is not…I hope that made sense. If you decide to give them some affiliates, keep your eye on them, especially the ones that don’t have standing orders. Let’s just say, you don’t want to keep on giving them affiliates and then find out they are not going to remain EA for the next month. Here’s a little tip…Anyone who has ever upgraded with a magazine subscription has never remained EA…at least that’s the way it’s been for me. Also, the changes that SFI made a couple of weeks ago are showing to be very promising …give the new system a chance. Everyone here knows that TOPS is the best way, but I wouldn’t steer my affiliates toward TOPS unless they are EA and/or they asked me about VeryVip…Just my 2 cents. Just let them know you are there for them to support and guide them and everything will be Okay! Lori
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Post by shing on Aug 27, 2006 2:11:39 GMT -5
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Lori. I really appreciate your influence here on the forum.
Shawna
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Post by agloco on Jun 10, 2007 5:54:39 GMT -5
Hi, Though I am not new to SFI as I signed it in March but I havn't touched it so far. Should I continue with this or cancel it and enrol with someone else who can teach me from time to time about SFI. I am from New Delhi and I signed up with someone in India but he not helpful to me regarding SFI. Any how I would like to cancel it and would like to resign it with some one else who can teach me from time to time.
Is it healthy to do this way. Please advise and comment. Thanks
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Post by mcomo on Aug 5, 2007 17:42:21 GMT -5
I will teach you a little trick to make sure SFI will do most of the work in getting your affiliates to become EA. They already do about 90%... this will increase it more... Create a TL Co-op with you as the only member by logging into your acct and clicking on Resouces then Team Leader Co-op Manager. When you get in there click on "Start New Co-op" and choose LEAD SOURCE: Your Gateway Site Using Keycode put any keycode you choose then DESCRIPTION: your choice ASSIGNMENT TYPE: Shares CO-OP TYPE: Powerline SPONSORSHIP: Retain Sponsorship for myself Then add what ever keycode you choose to your SFI url... for example: www.moreinfo247.com/181082.1952/freeThis will generate a bunch of Network Growth Referral notices to your free enrollments motivating them to become an EA. The NGR's go to those in the powerline you created who are below the person above them. In other words you create your Powerline today with the TL Co-op. Joe joins today and John joins tommorrow. Joe would get notice that John joined under him and he will receive a commission from his sales purcahses at 6%. The next day Jim joins thru your co-op keycode url. Both John and Joe would get Network Growth Refferal notices. Joe would show TWO people below him in his T-Net when he become an EA. This is POWERFUL motivation to upgrade. This new tool builds your Genealogy vertically [down] instead of horizontally [wide]. Gery Carson says this will generate many more NGR's [Network Growth Referral emails] for your T-Net Group and will increase your EA upgrade rate. Recent statistics at SFI is showing a direct relationship with EA upgrades and the number of NGR's generated to your people. If you have any questions regarding this benefit please review: www.sfimg.com/Training/TLCoopHowTo.sfi Or go to the SFI Discussion Board and enter "NGR Powerline" in the SEARCH Box: www.sfidboard.com/ Or you can go directly to this SFI D-Board Thread: www.sfidboard.com/showthread.php?t=46296Erich I wanted to set this up as Erich recommended, however they must have changed the site. Can anyone help me with the changes? Thank You. Mike C
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Post by Lori on Aug 6, 2007 7:34:16 GMT -5
Hi Mike, Your right, things have changed…the co-op type and sponsorship choices are not available anymore. Now that the network doesn’t build horizontally and only vertically (companywide powerline)…there is no need for us to build our own co-op powerlines. Lori
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