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Post by Skyrocket on Feb 12, 2006 7:01:50 GMT -5
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karen
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Post by karen on Feb 12, 2006 11:36:38 GMT -5
Perfect Jim!
How kind of you, thanks.
Karen
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Post by mschmidt10 on Feb 12, 2006 11:41:09 GMT -5
Hey Jim,
Way to go!
Mark
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Sandra
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Post by Sandra on Feb 12, 2006 12:43:37 GMT -5
Wow Jim, that's great! Thank you for this, I think many newbies will find it very useful Sandra
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Post by Richard on Feb 12, 2006 13:49:29 GMT -5
Thanks Jim. I will definitely give this a try.
Richard
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Post by David B on Feb 12, 2006 19:51:36 GMT -5
Sounds great, Jim - Thanks!
David
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Deb
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Post by Deb on Feb 12, 2006 22:11:02 GMT -5
Jim,
Is it useful!!!!!! This would have saved me months last year. I'd be rich by now! As it is, I still have a problem with loading time, and that mysterious fact that most of my visitors are spending 0min. 0 sec. on my site.
When I saw this I decided to start over.
By the way, are you very possesive about your wonderful newsletter signup box? I'd love to copy it if you don't mind, but would never 'steal' without asking.
Debbie
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Post by Richard on Feb 13, 2006 9:50:01 GMT -5
Hi Jim,
I have been playing around with your template and I must say this takes a little of the frustration away.
Question: Did Erich say we could copy his graphics for the three row ads or are we allowed to use the entire three rows setup - text, graphics, etc?
Can I use HTML with your Javascript & CSS?
How do I transfer the WAH graphic onto the website?
Thanks for your help,
Richard
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Post by Jim Addis on Feb 13, 2006 16:10:49 GMT -5
???Hey Jim or anyone. This my be beyond my HTML 101 scope of things at this juncture but i am looking at the source page of your template and i am wondering how the resources for the meta tags are determined. What criteria is used? How do you no that Meta Name=content etc is suppose 2 B there? R these all just standard for any web page? Geeeeeeeeeze i hope that is clear, what i am trying to ask. Also where there has been a comment and changes R made you dint need to delete the comment line. Correct? Thanks in advance 4 the input. Jim
PS Oh! By the way Jim I think your template is wonderful thing, and will help me immensely.
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Post by jimmeyers on Feb 13, 2006 20:25:23 GMT -5
Hey Skyrocket Jim,
I truly hope you reap what you sow!
Thanks Jim
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Post by Skyrocket on Feb 14, 2006 7:50:28 GMT -5
Hi Tom of the Brick Town
Thanks for the feedback and I'm glad this has sparked off a debate on how a template should function and what exactly it should provide.
I believe that if anyone wants to be successful with this business they need to learn at least the basics of HTML and the logic of how a website works in the background. It might be a bit of a struggle at the beginning but it lays the foundations of knowledge and confidence to grow in future. If a person knows how to tweek their website and make changes quickly, then they can response to market trends more effectively. Like I said though, that is just my belief and it's not wholely based on facts, you may know differently.
That's not to say I don't like your idea of providing a more complete template to get people started more quickly, as I do. I just think there may be a danger of someone going great guns into this without having a basic understanding of what they are doing and then losing money as a result of this.
I guess the idea of my template is to give just enough to get people started more quickly, but not enough that they didn't need to do a bit of work and learn a bit about what they are doing in the process. The template is very basic for that reason and you can make of it what you will. If Erich and the members of this forum decide that actually it will be more useful and not a problem to produce a bunch of templates for people to use, then I guess we could set up a location in which to post a load of templates for everyone to choose and use. This could be open to any creative web designers who wish to help out.
I don't have the answer, just my opinions and ideas. Between us all I'm sure we'll find the best way. I'm open to any suggestions so keep 'em coming.
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Post by Skyrocket on Feb 14, 2006 7:58:26 GMT -5
Hi Debbie,
regarding your loading time, I could take a look at this for you if you wish. In fact I might when I get five minutes, I didn't look before replying but I guess your homepage link is on your profile or in your sig?
Regarding the request to pinch my Newsletter Sign Up box, I don't actually have a problem with that, however I did buy the Newspaper image and so it does have copyright to the original owner. Plus if you just pinch the code from the HTML source you won't see much of the same box, as the image and most of the formatting is done using an external CSS. If you want the CSS and instructions on setting it up I can send them to you, but I will not send you the image, as I said this is protected by copyright laws.
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Post by Skyrocket on Feb 14, 2006 8:08:06 GMT -5
Hi Jim, I have been playing around with your template and I must say this takes a little of the frustration away. Question: Did Erich say we could copy his graphics for the three row ads or are we allowed to use the entire three rows setup - text, graphics, etc? Can I use HTML with your Javascript & CSS? How do I transfer the WAH graphic onto the website? Thanks for your help, Richard Hi Richard,
I believe that Erich is OK with you copying his entire 3 row Ads, I haven't gone back over the Phase 1 instructions but I'm sure that's what I read. It's definately OK to pinch his graphics, he did say that.
Not sure what your question is about using HTML with my JavaScript and CSS. All three of those things work together. If you want to elaborate on the question I should be able to help you more on this.
In order to get the WAH header image appearing on the template, all you have to do is make sure you have saved the image (right click on the link in my post and choose Save As) in the same folder as the template, do not change the name (WAHHEADER.gif). The best way I would recommend you do this is to create a folder called Template on your computer. Use the Right-Click, Save As instructions I gave you to save both the template (called: index.htm) and the image (WAHHEADER.gif) in the Template folder. That's all you need do. If both the webpage and the image are sitting next to each other in the same folder you should be able to open the template in your browser and the header should appear at the top.
Hope that's all clear!? Let me know if it isn't and if you need further instructions.
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Post by Skyrocket on Feb 14, 2006 8:14:56 GMT -5
???Hey Jim or anyone. This my be beyond my HTML 101 scope of things at this juncture but i am looking at the source page of your template and i am wondering how the resources for the meta tags are determined. What criteria is used? How do you no that Meta Name=content etc is suppose 2 B there? R these all just standard for any web page? Geeeeeeeeeze i hope that is clear, what i am trying to ask. Also where there has been a comment and changes R made you dint need to delete the comment line. Correct? Thanks in advance 4 the input. Jim PS Oh! By the way Jim I think your template is wonderful thing, and will help me immensely. Hi Jim,
I'm glad the template will help you, that's what it's there for Regarding your question on the Meta tags, it's a good question and one that I took for granted a bit, so here's to explain.
Meta-tags as they are known is a bunch of pre-determined tags that provide information about the website to search engines, browsers and anything else that would read and process the HTML code. Meta I believe means data about data.
The only way you would know about them and how to use them is if you have learnt about it from a tutorial on web design, so it's not obvious. For ease I actually took the template meta-tags from Stone's original, as he's got all the important one's and why re-invent the wheel. I have adapted them slightly to apply more to our WAH business. Please look at each of them and change them to your own details as appropriate (ie: Your name replaces mine), plus you can add Keywords and change the Description if you are not happy with what I've put.
Hope that clarifies it a bit for you
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Post by Skyrocket on Feb 14, 2006 8:18:43 GMT -5
Hey Skyrocket Jim, I truly hope you reap what you sow! Thanks Jim Hi Jim,
there are a lot of Jim's around here, I might just stick to Skyrocket as a name!
Thanks for the kind words my friend, I just feel guilty having all this HTML knowledge when others are struggling. It's a way of making me feel better about myself
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Post by Richard on Feb 14, 2006 14:08:39 GMT -5
Skyrocket,
If HTML, CSS, & Javascript all work together, that answers my question. I was concerned if I start revising your template with HTML ( which I am just learning) whether those revisions would affect the javascript or CSS. If not then I shell plow ahead.
Last night I redid the WAH header into my colors of chose. When I went to copy and tranfer to the template site it tranfered back to the original colors. Re-tried two more times with the same result.
Any suggestions?
Richard
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Post by Skyrocket on Feb 14, 2006 16:58:33 GMT -5
Hi Richard.
You'll need to explain more about how you re-did the WAH header into your colors, or I may answer your question below:
If you took the image, used an image editor to change the color of the WAHHEADER.gif image and simple saved it with the same name. Then you have to make sure that you have saved the revised version over the old version in the same folder as the original, which will be the folder you keep the Template webpage.
If you have it online, then you need to have uploaded the new version to override the old version.
If you have changed the name of the header from WAHHEADER.gif, then you need to make sure that in the HTML, the new name you have given it is the img src, ie: <img src="WAHnewheadername.gif" />
Let me know how you get on, or if you need more help with this.
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Deb
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In Chinese, the words "crisis" and "opportunity" are the same.
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Post by Deb on Feb 15, 2006 22:43:52 GMT -5
Thanks, Jim
It was the image I wanted, so I'll just use my old one.
If you could help with my loading time, I'd be most grateful, although I'm working on a new page using your template at present. I'm hoping some of the problem was the original html for the page I was using, and that this will change things.
One question, when I am finished, do I need to delete all the lovely green (at least they're green in NVU) instructions you have given us? Would that speed up the time a little, or does it matter?
Thanks again. Your template is awesome!
Debbie
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Post by Skyrocket on Feb 16, 2006 8:10:37 GMT -5
Thanks, Jim It was the image I wanted, so I'll just use my old one. If you could help with my loading time, I'd be most grateful, although I'm working on a new page using your template at present. I'm hoping some of the problem was the original html for the page I was using, and that this will change things. One question, when I am finished, do I need to delete all the lovely green (at least they're green in NVU) instructions you have given us? Would that speed up the time a little, or does it matter? Thanks again. Your template is awesome! Debbie Hi Debbie,
my suggestion would be to keep going with the Template and see how the load time is once you have it finished, or near as d**n it. It could very well be the HTML of your current page that slows it down, as if it has a lot of different and mixed types of HTML, or inconsistency, the browsers could take time to interpret it all. However I'm not convinced yet that it is, normally loading times are affected by images.
Once you have your site on the Template let me know and I could take a look at it for you if the load times are still slow.
Regarding the NVU green instructions in the code, the browser will ignore all of them, so you do not need to delete it and in fact I would encourage you to keep it as it will always act as a guide for you and help you locate things in the code.
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Elaine Currie
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Post by Elaine Currie on Feb 16, 2006 11:15:46 GMT -5
Hi Jim,
Your template is a thing of great beauty.
I made the final changes to my website yesterday, today I saw your post and guess what? - I am about to start all over again.
I have nearly driven myself nuts trying to sort out my code which has been cobbled together from various sources and I am convinced that is what is making my loading time so slow. You have just offered the perfect solution.
According to Net Mechanic I had 518 html errors on my webpage. I laboriously went through their recommendations and change each one. When I ran the test again, I had 609 errors! I think I need serious help here!
When I was messing about with loading speeds etc, I tested many other websites to see how mine compared. You will probably not be surprised but yours was the only one with absoloutely zero html errors.
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Post by bornagain on Feb 16, 2006 13:56:18 GMT -5
Jim & Tom,
Thanks for the templates. Very nice work on both of them.
Craig
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Post by Skyrocket on Feb 16, 2006 15:47:36 GMT -5
Hi Elaine,
thank you for the wonderful feedback on the Template. I'm really pleased that it's helping you and others. I intend to develop it further, giving an all round education of how to best build and develop your site. I'm hoping to also enlist the help of knowledgeable members such as BrickTownTom and Sandra too, as I think between us we could come up with a great set of tools to enable 3 Phase Profits entrepreneurs the best start to their online venture. Not sure how long this will take though, as we are all busy people, plus I haven't asked them yet!
Regarding the results you are getting from Net Mechanic, that's exactly the reason why I don't use such tools to check my site. At the end of the day, if it loads OK in IE, Netscape and Firefox, you need not worry about any errors in the page. I suppose they can be useful to check for any serious errors, however if you are not familiar with HTML, how are you supposed to know which errors are serious and which ones you can ignore? I think I'll do some research into these tools to learn how they work, test how effective they are and report back on my findings. In the meantime, if you are having trouble with coding your site, let me know and I'll help you as much as I can.
I look forward to seeing what you've done with the Template
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