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Post by Erich on Feb 14, 2009 11:13:41 GMT -5
I logged into my acct this morning and was pleasantly surprised to see a nice increase in compensation with this new plan...
This new compensation plan is in my opinion the best in a long time. I've seen many changes over the years... some good and some not so good. This is absolutely a GOOD one. I've probably been one of the most vocal critics of SFI Comp Plan changes over the years. Not this time!!!
It looks like they are returning back to rewarding those who actually work the program and enroll new and active members. I noticed at the SFI D-Board where some were complaining about their Executive Bonus dropping by about $3.00. This really needed to happen. It is much better for an affiliate to lose that minimal amount on the front end in order to make much more with the Affiliate & Network Overides. The real money is in working the program on a regular basis and introducing new people which will generate sales and commissions.
2009 could be a great year for SFI affiliates who are willing to work the program and bring in others who will do the same.
My overall compensation went up over 40% from Dec to Jan... now it is close to where it should be.
I am interested to know how others made out???
Erich Winnecke
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Post by kiriba on Feb 14, 2009 13:13:32 GMT -5
Erich,
With the new SFI comp plan my Jan earnings were nearly 40% better than they would have been with the previous comp plan.
This most recent change is a step in the right direction and is much better than those comp plan changes over the last few years. I'm hoping that Gery will eventually go back to the "old days" and drop the "Executive Bonus" concept completely...I see no reason to pay somebody just for becoming an EA (this money comes straight out of the pockets of those that are actually working the business and producing results).
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Post by talfighel on Feb 14, 2009 13:53:42 GMT -5
I also see a slight positive change in SFI comp plan. If it was like when SFI just came to life, it would be much more worth it and more people would make more money. This is good stuff. I would really like to see more people succeed in SFI and take more action. Tal Erich, With the new SFI comp plan my Jan earnings were nearly 40% better than they would have been with the previous comp plan. This most recent change is a step in the right direction and is much better than those comp plan changes over the last few years. I'm hoping that Gery will eventually go back to the "old days" and drop the "Executive Bonus" concept completely...I see no reason to pay somebody just for becoming an EA (this money comes straight out of the pockets of those that are actually working the business and producing results).
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Post by kiriba on Feb 14, 2009 15:19:59 GMT -5
If it was like when SFI just came to life, it would be much more worth it and more people would make more money. Tal The SFI comp plan was good initially and up through 2005, but it has been going down hill every year in 2006, 2007 & 2008. Perhaps Gery has finally gotten the message that he alienated many of the long time strong producers with his "Robin Hood" approach to compensation (aka the "Executive Bonus" garbage) and the good producers turned their efforts elsewhere.
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Post by Sandi Moses on Feb 14, 2009 16:28:36 GMT -5
I am interested to know how others made out??? Erich Winnecke The lowest it has been since February 2005.
Sandi
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Post by kiriba on Feb 14, 2009 17:56:16 GMT -5
I'm sure that Erich can tell you how to fix that. A good comp plan is now in place that provides increased earnings for people that are actively working the SFI program.
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Post by Lori G. on Feb 14, 2009 19:14:37 GMT -5
I am interested to know how others made out??? Erich Winnecke The lowest it has been since February 2005.
SandiDidn't you drop your EA status Sandi? Maye that's way. My number's were not that good either. I'm hoping I am one of those "late bloomers". Lori
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Post by tab426 on Feb 14, 2009 19:27:42 GMT -5
My overall compensation went up over 40% from Dec to Jan... now it is close to where it should be. I am interested to know how others made out??? Erich Winnecke Mine were up 61% over December.
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Post by Sandi Moses on Feb 14, 2009 19:35:55 GMT -5
The lowest it has been since February 2005.
Sandi Didn't you drop your EA status Sandi? Maye that's way. My number's were not that good either. I'm hoping I am one of those "late bloomers". Lori I bought stuff in January so for January I was EA.
Sandi
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Post by tab426 on Feb 14, 2009 21:56:31 GMT -5
Didn't you drop your EA status Sandi? Maye that's way. My number's were not that good either. I'm hoping I am one of those "late bloomers". Lori I bought stuff in January so for January I was EA.
SandiHi Sandi, Are you sure your commissions are correct? Based on the 2 comp plans, it doesn't seem right that you would earn less in January as an EA than you did in December as a non-EA. Or were you an EA in December as well? Unless I'm missing something, you might want to look into it. Under the old plan, non-EA's earnings were pretty well restricted.
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Post by mcomo on Feb 15, 2009 0:09:19 GMT -5
My commission went up significantly over last month. In fact I was coming here to see if anyone else was getting the same results or if it was an error. This is great news! Mike C
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Post by Sandi Moses on Feb 15, 2009 8:58:52 GMT -5
Hi Sandi, Are you sure your commissions are correct? Based on the 2 comp plans, it doesn't seem right that you would earn less in January as an EA than you did in December as a non-EA. Or were you an EA in December as well? Unless I'm missing something, you might want to look into it. Under the old plan, non-EA's earnings were pretty well restricted. I was not EA October-December 2008, the first time I had not been EA since I joined SFI in 2003. Computer and internet connection issues kept me off line for 6 weeks, and I decided that was a good time to stop losing money with SFI, so I didn't become EA again until January. I had run out of some product, so I made a purchase and became EA again in January.
Because I was not EA there were NO commissions for October-December 2008. My commission for January was about 27% of what I spent for product and shipping, and that is pretty much the norm. (SFI does not offer the best prices on shipping but I am still trying to get them to see that.)
Sandi
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Post by Lori on Feb 15, 2009 9:42:44 GMT -5
Mine also went up a significant amount…it was a very nice surprise! Lori
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Post by Erich on Feb 15, 2009 10:19:23 GMT -5
I'm happy to hear several of you have also seen a significant increase with SFI.
I've marketed several programs in the past which I'm not proud of... and always rationalized that the buyer would make money if they just worked hard and if they didn't like it... they could always get a refund. Looking back now... that was a pretty lame way of doing things. Anyway, we can't go back and change what we've done... all we can do is try to do better now.
I feel totally comfortable marketing SFI. Not only can people join free but they can actually get something useful and tangible when they upgrade to EA.... and if they are unsatisified after that... they really can get a no hassle refund.
Whats not to like about that???
Erich
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Post by Sandi Moses on Feb 15, 2009 15:43:19 GMT -5
I'm happy to hear several of you have also seen a significant increase with SFI. I've marketed several programs in the past which I'm not proud of... and always rationalized that the buyer would make money if they just worked hard and if they didn't like it... they could always get a refund. Looking back now... that was a pretty lame way of doing things. Anyway, we can't go back and change what we've done... all we can do is try to do better now. I feel totally comfortable marketing SFI. Not only can people join free but they can actually get something useful and tangible when they upgrade to EA.... and if they are unsatisified after that... they really can get a no hassle refund. Whats not to like about that??? Erich Nothing.
As a matter of fact, I don't have a problem marketing SFI either, because they do offer good products and people can make money with the program. Some people actually DO make money with the program.
Unfortunately, I'm not one of them.
However, just because it hasn't worked for me doesn't mean it won't or doesn't work for others. It is a decent honest program with real products to sell and real services to offer. That can't be said about far too much of what is available online.
Sandi
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Post by mcomo on Feb 15, 2009 19:50:14 GMT -5
I'm happy to hear several of you have also seen a significant increase with SFI. I've marketed several programs in the past which I'm not proud of... and always rationalized that the buyer would make money if they just worked hard and if they didn't like it... they could always get a refund. Looking back now... that was a pretty lame way of doing things. Anyway, we can't go back and change what we've done... all we can do is try to do better now. I feel totally comfortable marketing SFI. Not only can people join free but they can actually get something useful and tangible when they upgrade to EA.... and if they are unsatisified after that... they really can get a no hassle refund. Whats not to like about that??? Erich What exactly did they change? I know that sounds crazy because my income went up a lot, but I just keep sponsoring people and answering questions the best I can. To be honest I still feel like there is a WHOLE LOT more about SFI that I don't know than I really know and understand. All I really know is you either sponsor people, buy products or both and maintain your EA status. Mike C
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Post by Erich on Feb 16, 2009 11:52:15 GMT -5
I'm happy to hear several of you have also seen a significant increase with SFI. I've marketed several programs in the past which I'm not proud of... and always rationalized that the buyer would make money if they just worked hard and if they didn't like it... they could always get a refund. Looking back now... that was a pretty lame way of doing things. Anyway, we can't go back and change what we've done... all we can do is try to do better now. I feel totally comfortable marketing SFI. Not only can people join free but they can actually get something useful and tangible when they upgrade to EA.... and if they are unsatisified after that... they really can get a no hassle refund. Whats not to like about that??? Erich What exactly did they change? I know that sounds crazy because my income went up a lot, but I just keep sponsoring people and answering questions the best I can. To be honest I still feel like there is a WHOLE LOT more about SFI that I don't know than I really know and understand. All I really know is you either sponsor people, buy products or both and maintain your EA status. Mike C They increased they amount you earn on your Affiliate & Network Overides. Thats the only change I can see on the compensation plan on a monthly basis. They were able to do this by decreasing the amount we earn on the Executive Bonus. Erich
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Post by mcomo on Feb 17, 2009 20:56:59 GMT -5
What exactly did they change? I know that sounds crazy because my income went up a lot, but I just keep sponsoring people and answering questions the best I can. To be honest I still feel like there is a WHOLE LOT more about SFI that I don't know than I really know and understand. All I really know is you either sponsor people, buy products or both and maintain your EA status. Mike C They increased they amount you earn on your Affiliate & Network Overides. Thats the only change I can see on the compensation plan on a monthly basis. They were able to do this by decreasing the amount we earn on the Executive Bonus. Erich First, Happy Birthday Erich and thank you again for all you have taught me over the past two years. I hope you have a great day! In regards to SFI I really like the changes and I look forward to the next year. Perhaps I can take it up another gear with them. Regards, Mike C
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Post by dean on Feb 23, 2009 21:22:54 GMT -5
Hello,
My name is Dean. have not logged in for a while. I am still trying to be a part of things. Can someone tell me how to get more involved and understand working the banner adds and advertising with SFI. How do you advertise without a Website or is this possible. I have asked this question before but never got a real answer that I could understand. Thank you for your help.
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Post by Sandi Moses on Feb 24, 2009 8:59:46 GMT -5
Hello, My name is Dean. have not logged in for a while. I am still trying to be a part of things. Can someone tell me how to get more involved and understand working the banner adds and advertising with SFI. How do you advertise without a Website or is this possible. I have asked this question before but never got a real answer that I could understand. Thank you for your help. Hi, Dean
The SFI banner ads are specifically for use on your own website. If you don't have your own website then the banner ads are not the advertising method for you.
However, there are many other offline methods to advertise SFI.
If you want to advertise Triple Clicks so you make more sales, look here for ways to do that.
www.sfimg.com/Resources/Refer.sfi
If you want to sponsor more affiliates and grow your downline, go here .
www.sfimg.com/Resources/Sponsor.sfi
Sandi
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Post by Erich on Feb 24, 2009 11:11:20 GMT -5
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