I ordered from Veriuni.com and was ALARMED!!!

[noonie]

OK, so in order to reach my SVP for SFI, I ordered a bottle of their Nutritional Liquid Supplement. As a Goji Juice fan, I thought it would be similar to it, but I couldn't even keep it in my mouth, let alone swallow it. My mouth was on fire & my tongue was tingling. So, I read the ingredients on the back & among some the minerals found in the drink were:
-ARSENIC_CHLORINE-BARIUM-LEAD-SULFUR- and many other alarming ingredients. I just am wondering if anyone else has tried these products. I can't figure out why anyone would WANT to drink ARSENIC!

Also, I looked up Veriuni.com on BBB because it is listed on their website & it returned no results. So, now what should I do? The directions on the bottle even state the amount to give to children!!!!!! I can not in good conscious promote a product that tells us to ingest chlorine, arsenic, & other such substances. Please, let me know what I should do next. Thanks so much! ----Dawn

[Lori G.]

Hi Dawn,

I would contact SFI or Veriuni directly with your concerns.

Lori

[Deb]

Hey, Dawn,

Let us know what you find. I have a few bottles of that stuff in my kitchen, but for some reason just don't feel motivated to take it. Maybe it's a good thing.

Deb

[noonie]

debbie said:

Hey, Dawn,

Let us know what you find. I have a few bottles of that stuff in my kitchen, but for some reason just don't feel motivated to take it. Maybe it's a good thing.

Deb

Deb, is it the Peach Flavored Liquid Nutrition? If it is, then read the back label. I just don't understand it. What am I missing? I am going to contact SFI and Veriuni directly, so I'll keep you all posted on what they say.

[Roy]

I think you are overly alarmed.

Read the Lable underneath the Mineral List.

Plant derived minerals should not be confused with metallic minerals....

Here a Post from USDA:
healthymeals.nal.usda.gov/nal_display/index.php?info_center=4&tax_level=3&tax_subject=256&topic_id=1342&level3_id=5141

A USDA report on DRI report focuses on vitamin A, vitamin K, boron, chromium, copper, iodine, iron, manganese, molybdenum, nickel, vanadium, zinc, ARSENIC, and silicon.
healthymeals.nal.usda.gov/nal_display/index.php?info_center=4&tax_level=4&tax_subject=256&topic_id=1342&level3_id=5141&level4_id=10590

Hope this help you.
Roy

[Sandi Moses]

Roy, these reports are coming up blank. It happens when I click from the link and also when I copy and paste.

Sandi

[troyzone]

Sandi, did you get the entire links? Both of the links above wrap onto a second line, which isn't clickable in the original post.

I tried to repost the links here with url tags around them etc. but they still came out the same...I guess the forum doesn't like long links that wrap We'll have to copy and paste these ones line by line the old fashioned way just like links that get broken up in plain text emails.

Troy

[tab426]

Try these redirects:

Roys first link (This one comes up blank for me too)
Roys second link (This one loads for me)

Tim

[noonie]

ahbmg said:

I think you are overly alarmed.

Read the Lable underneath the Mineral List.

Plant derived minerals should not be confused with metallic minerals....

Here a Post from USDA:
healthymeals.nal.usda.gov/nal_display/index.php?info_center=4&tax_level=3&tax_subject=256&topic_id=1342&level3_id=5141

A USDA report on DRI report focuses on vitamin A, vitamin K, boron, chromium, copper, iodine, iron, manganese, molybdenum, nickel, vanadium, zinc, ARSENIC, and silicon.
healthymeals.nal.usda.gov/nal_display/index.php?info_center=4&tax_level=4&tax_subject=256&topic_id=1342&level3_id=5141&level4_id=10590

Hope this help you.
Roy

No, I definately read that little print that said to not confuse the plant derived minerals from the metallic minerals. Still, why did my mouth & tongue start burning? This stuff was not tolerable to swallow.

I read the chapter from the link that you recommended (from Tab426's post) & it stated that although trace amounts are taken in with certain seafood & uncooked rice, that there was no study done on arsenic intake in human subjects. However, the lab results in rats & mice resulted in fetal mortality & disfigured fetuses. Toward the end, the article stated that there was no justification in adding inorganic arsenic to any diet. I am not trying to debate SFI's motives, I just would like to know that the product I intend to promote will not result in someone's health being adversely affected because of me. In all honesty, I just do not see how anyone could actually drink that stuff.

Has anyone else tried that drink? If so, I'd like to know their thoughts. Thanks for posting the related reports Roy and Tab426. It was very helpful. -Dawn

[Sandi Moses]

noonie said:

ahbmg said:

Has anyone else tried that drink? If so, I'd like to know their thoughts. Thanks for posting the related reports Roy and Tab426. It was very helpful. -Dawn

As I posted elsewhere, I have been using it since I joined SFI 3 years ago. I was very favorably impressed with the taste as most liquid vitamins have that hideous Vitamin B aftertaste and this does not. I'm not so sure I would agree that it is "peach flavored" but I think it tastes fine. It certainly tastes better that some liquid vitamins that taste like you would imagine a tea made from soil and lawn mowings would taste!

Sandi

[Deb]

I've taken it off and on for a year and a half.
I really do wake up feeling more alert the days I remember to take it.
There is a slight tingle, but not nearly as much as Ginger Ale, and I certainly wouldn't describe it as "burning". I wonder if you got a faulty bottle or something.

In any case, Roy's article indicated that arsenic in its organic form may be benificial, and that the deformed offspring in rats was a result of arsenid DEPRIVATION. It sounds like it might not be as alarming as it initially sounds.

I haven't looked at lead yet. That still sounds a bit alarming.

[shing]

I have also been taking the Veruini liquid vitamins and actually don't mind the taste at all. I also feel better when I take them. Maybe I've developed an immunity to arsenic and lead - kind of like the Dread Pirate Roberts with iocane powder on the Princess Bride.

I think it's late. I'd better go to bed.......

Shawna

[noonie]

I've read all of your posts & I think I can only come to the conclusion that I may have a bottle that has gone past the expiration date. This bottle tasted rancid. But, at any rate, I'm glad that it isn't harmful. I'm still not going to drink it, but at least I know I can promote it without worry. Thank you for all of your posts, they were really helpful! --Dawn

[Erich]

noonie said:

I've read all of your posts & I think I can only come to the conclusion that I may have a bottle that has gone past the expiration date. This bottle tasted rancid. But, at any rate, I'm glad that it isn't harmful. I'm still not going to drink it, but at least I know I can promote it without worry. Thank you for all of your posts, they were really helpful! --Dawn

Dawn

If that is the case please call SFI and ask them to pay the shipping for your return of the product and credit to your acct.

It is possible some clerk shipped you an outdated product.

I personally have always like the taste and the quality of the Vernui products...

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Erich

[shing]

Dawn,

With my late night post, I still think you should follow up with a nutrition specialist for Veriuni, if they have one. You will want to promote SFI to build your business. You're right, in that you do need to feel completely comfortable supporting them. I would also like to know what they have to say about your concerns. Our bodies are amazing and can adapt to many things. But I, like you, try to be very careful to make sure I make wise choices. I think a lot of us will be watching this post, or checking into it ourselves.

Shawna

[futureadvantage]

Talked with two chemist today about the posting here:

One a chemistry prof. at local school PHD. type the other does testing for a living and heads up program for company.

Both said these chemicals are normal in most products we purchase to some levels.

Not sure about the sensations that Dawn received, both suggested it could be a mild reaction like an allergy to some part of the mix. (I for example have to stir clear of products with high msg or I can "hulk out" not guite that bad but I can experience quite a bit of swelling in the fingers and joints.)

Hope this helps.


Michael

[troyzone]

Interesting stuff Michael, thanks for the info. The possible allergic reaction to an ingredient is also another angle to consider too if the bottle Dawn had isn't outdated or otherwise spoiled. Sometimes we have allergies and don't even know it, particularly if they are to things that we don't encounter very often in any amount, at least not often enough to make such a connection.

I'm sure others here will find the info you posted interesting as well.

Troy

[shing]

That was a great thought you had to talk to a chemist. What a great resource, Michael. And a good thought on the allergic side of things. I steer clear of msg, as well. Thanks for sharing.

Shawna

[Sandi Moses]

From the reading I've found so far, if you eat, you ingest this stuff. It is found is meats and fruits and vegetables. Naturally. It is not avoidable.

Veriuni not only labels it, but points out that it is plant-derived - organic. Not every producer is so thorough or up-front.

It may not be found in the synthetic pills found on the shelf at your local discount store, but those contain a lot of "fillers" that you definitely don't need.

Sandi

[noonie]

Wow, I had no idea so many people were following these posts. The date on the bottom of the bottle is for 2008, so it isn't outdated. But, one thing that Michael said is that maybe it is an allergy. I do know that I am allergic to garlic, but nothing serious....Just a load of hives on my neck, face, & back whenever I ingest garlic(raw or cooked ) I will be letting SFI know the reaction I had, but I am going to continue with promoting the Veriuni products.

As Sandy said, the plant-derived minerals in the drink are found in meats & vegetables, so as far as trace amounts go- I know it isn't harmful. (although, I am a vegetarian ) I'll let you know what SFI says. Thanks for all of your concerns & help throughout this matter. ---Dawn

[shing]

Dawn,
I contacted SFI with your concern about the liquid nutrition. This is what they said -

"
The Veriuni Liquid Nutrition is derived from all natural substances,
which naturally have these ingredients in them in them. The amount
that you will find in the Advanced Liquid Nutrition is very minute.
However, because they are in there, we feel we should list them on the
label. I have personally taken the Veriuni Liquid Nutrition before,
and I have never had the effect of my tounge being numb or tingly, or
felt like my mouth was on fire. It has a peach flavor. Nothing in it
will harm you. If you have concerns, I suggest you consult with your
doctor.

Carson Services is listed with the BBB. Carson services sells the
Veriuni products."

One thing to add - if all products have traces of these minerals in them, they don't disclose that, but Veriuni does.

Shawna